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@Nathage thanks just need @LSUVPJemma_Dud to be more involved. We will get her there some day! (DarrenLJMUVP)
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► LSU POLL
► Minutes from 28th January
Better University Forum
Thursday 28th January 2010, 5:30pm-7:20pm
Drift Café – Liverpool Students’ Union
7 attendees, 5 have attended previous forums.
5:30pm Welcome
Tea and coffee were served while members signed in. The agenda was given out and we all introduced ourselves to the group.
5:35pm Catch up
Jemma discussed the issues which have been raised at past forums and the progress she has achieved in each area.
Canteens – expensive, unhealthy, opening times. Jemma met with Allan Bickerstaffe to discuss. External organisation Russell Partnership are conducting a review of LJMU canteens and also looking into water fountains around campus and healthier food options. Jemma and Sandra Pickering are visiting cafes around town to compare their prices to ours.
LSS now has a water dispenser (hot and cold)
VC is now spending less money around campus. Some students feel that the money spent on refurbishing the libraries could have been spent elsewhere. E.g. the LRCs have wavy shaped desks (which apparently cost more than straight cut ones) and yet some class rooms have paint and plaster falling off the walls, and other rooms have leaks from the light fixtures and windows when it rains.
5:45pm Feedback strategy
Jemma has been invited to a Feedback Strategy session at Oxford Brookes University along with university staff to discuss a university wide feedback strategy (2nd-3rd February).
LJMU are currently reviewing their feedback processes. Lecturers should currently be using the “LJMU Effective Practice in Assessment” Blue Book and LSU want to make their own blue book to make it clear what students want from feedback. Our blue book will include why we want change, our strategy, examples of good and bad feedback, and 10 ways of how we can make feedback better.
Jemma then passed round the Bucks Students’ Union Education Campaign booklet and
the NUS Feedback Amnesty.
Everyone liked the LSU Blue Book idea.
6:05pm Break for food. Veggie crumble, wedges, pizza, chicken wings. Everyone liked the food.
6:30pm Mind mapping 46 ways for feedback to be improved.
• Legible
• Typed
• Continuous throughout module
• Peer to peer review
• Advertise tutorials with feedback (e.g. attend tutorials to do better on next assignment)
• Rate tutor’s feedback
• Discussion – live feedback possibly on BlackBoard
• Feed-forward sessions – what you can improve on for next time
• Standard feedback form
• Give out marking criteria before assignment is completed
• Lecture held before assignment to talk through criteria
• Comparative feedback –compared with example or other people’s work
• Students want feedback on exams and would like the script back to review along with internal and external moderator comments.
Are external speakers who set assessments qualified to mark them? Are they being marked to university staff standards?
• Examples from previous years
• Individual feedback sessions
• Not giving marks/feedback out in front of classmates
• Feedback which refers you back to specific chapters in books, or a certain week’s lecture notes to get better understanding
• Should be given before new work for the same module is set – particularly more important with the introduction of more 24 credit modules
• Should be marked consistently across university. Do different lecturers mark to different standards?
• 2 sided statement. 1 side being generic across university, the other side module specific
• Feedback that students give lecturers should be acted upon more promptly
• Lecturer should set their own deadline for giving students feedback, tell them when it is and stick to it
• Young lecturers seem more willing to give typed/online feedback
• Live multiple choice clickers used in lectures demonstrate to lecturers which students need more help in which areas and are able to offer them additional help
• University wide there should be a maximum of 4 week wait on return of feedback
7pm Jemma gives the group an update on the LSU teaching awards.
7:15pm Thanks for attending and completion of feedback forms, all feedback received was good.
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